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. they did try to get the repeal of massachusetts health reform on to the ballot for a statewide vote. and it works in massachusetts like it does in every state. you need to get your ballot language approved by the state, then you need to get a certain number of signatures, but if you clear that number of signatures and it turns out enough of those signatures are real people, then your repeal thing goes on the ballot and people get to vote on whether or not to repeal that law. the repeal romney care folks never got to the end of that process, because they got distracted. see, the whole effort to repeal health reform in massachusetts seems to have actually been kind of a pet project, maybe a side interest, for one single anti-abortion group in that state. and even though the group said they really wanted to repeal romney care and they got the repeal romney care url and they got the website up and everything, they ended up losing interest. i think, because massachusetts decided that they were going to consider a doctor-assisted suicide measure, and that excited the anti-abortion people
this week, president obama beat former massachusetts governor mitt romney in the 2012 election. now the president invokes the name of his defeated gop rival to defend health care reform. in just a moment, governor romney joins me for an exclusive interview. and president obama's approval rating is at an all-time low. obamacare is at a rough start. more u.s. spy revelations have rocked even our closest allies. and did the president consider replacing vice president joe biden with then-secretary of state hillary clinton? that's according to a bombshell in a new book "double down, game changing 2012." bob wood card, katty kay, david axelrod, bill kristol. i'm david gregory in washington. >>> and good sunday morning. the killing of a tsa agent at los angeles international airport is raising questions about the motives of the 23-year-old suspect, and also airport security. do tsa agents need to be armed? our justice correspondent pete williams will be here in a little while to give us an update and fresh report on all of that. but first, the obama care debate. the healthcare.gov was actu
tonight is elizabeth warren, a senator from massachusetts who is making democrats do back flips over the effect she is having on the democratic party, and she could be a big part of the next round of national democratic leadership for 2016 and beyond. senator elizabeth warren is our guest live in just a moment. >>> and in washington, though, this was the remarkable scene outside the home of republican house speaker john boehner early this morning. it is dark in these images because it started before dawn on the sidewalk in front of his house on capitol hill. and it carried on into the early morning light this morning. as young activists were bold enough to go to john boehner's doorstep to try to increase the pressure for him to allow a vote on immigration reform. this footage is from nbc latino, which covered the action this morning. >> what we're protesting here -- >> the reason why is because we have the vote for immigration reform. there is still time left in the calendar, in the congressional calendar. and the only thing stopping us is him. >> it is true that the same immigration
to and even then at the very last minute. under romney-care in massachusetts, in many ways, this was the template of the affordable care act. this is where things stood after one month, 123 people have seened up. granted, it is one state, there are 34 states using the federal obama care website. that's about one-third of 1%. after otwo months in massachusetts, just 2,300 people have enrolled. it was only after 11 months under the threat of a penalty about to be imposed that more than 36,000 people in massachusetts would go on to enroll. most of them didn't enroll until that 11-month mark. so obama care can work. it won't kick in until the end of next march, five months from now. getting it to work depends on getting the problems ironed out and getting americans of all ages signed up. the obama administration needs to straighten out the political mess it's created. it's not just one future cabinet secretary at stake. this is the fate of the democratic party and beyond it is tied to whether obama care succeeds. the short term, that means getting the website fixed. in the long
to massachusetts? i will talk to the architect of both plans in minutes. >>> the president's meeting with the leader of iraq. exactly what kind of military help is that country seeking from the u.s., and will it happen? >>> in office politics, down to its last days? i talked to cnbc's carl quintanilla about the problems with blackberry. >>> and how much money could this work of art fetch? it's in today's list of number ones. >>> hello, everyone. it's high noon here in the east, 9:00 a.m. out west. welcome to "weekends with alex witt." he's back with a whole lot to say. mitt romney on today's "meet the press," talking about the comparisons between romney care in massachusetts and obama care. >> and perhaps the most important lesson the president failed to learn was you have to tell the american people the truth. what when he told the american people you could keep your health insurance if you wanted to keep that plan, period, he said that time and again, he wasn't telling the truth. i think that fundamental dishonesty has put in peril the whole foundation of his second term. >> curren
business in great berington, massachusetts, a community finding unique ways to get locals to shop on small business saturday. that more coming up next on "your business." >> small businesses are revitalizing the economy and american express open is here to help. that's why we're proud to present "your business" on msnbc. ♪ >> hi, there, everyone. i'm jj ramberg and welcome to "your business," the show that champions entrepreneurship by giving you tips and advice to help your small business grow. now we've all heard of work/life balance. for actress and entrepreneur karen allen, finding that balance when her son was growing up was the key to allow her to cultivate her love of designing knit wear and opening her own store in great berington, massachusetts. but now that her son is grown, she's had to figure out how to find a work/work balance again as she continues her career as a busy working actress and director, as well as a small business owner. it's been almost six months since karen allen has been in her massachusetts textile design studio, splitting her time between acting, directing
in america. >> massachusetts. >> encorrect. this state will become the 16th in america to legalize same-sex marriage. you have already rung in i can't allow. that i'm sorry, there are rules here time, calm time. illinois will almost the 16th state according to reports this week, charlie krchrist my face fight -- robert. >> bill nelson. >> may face a primary challenge. 200 point question signing a bill that encourages epi pen availability in schools, president obama revealed. >> daughter has allergy. >> more correct. >> malia is allergy ec to peanuts. >> next question after the final taped episode aired the week, the a & e new yorker refused to confirm or don't reports it has cancelled reports about this louisiana governor an convicted felon. >> edward edwards. >> we will accept ed war. and 200 points there. this is an instant bonus question. vote for the crook. it's important was a popular bumper sticker when he defeated whom for louisiana's governship in known 91? >> durk, david duke the former chanceman. 200 more points. 200 point question a profile noted the wife of this west coast d
? >> right. the white house continues to point to massachusetts where 123 people enrolled in the program the first month. that number steadily grew. >> speaking of massachusetts, i thought it was fascinating yesterday, the same man that accused mitt romney of killing a woman, remember that? mitt romney killed my wife. remember that commercial? he was such a beast, a horrible human being. mitt romney killed my wife. barack obama believed that. >> obama did not claim that. the president did not say that. >> hillary clinton wasn't running against him in 2012. >> this commercial was put together by some sort of arm. >> somebody very close to barack obama. barack obama takes responsibility, the buck stops with barack obama. >> okay. >> barack obama and his campaign and people connected to his campaign and people closely associated with him in the past claimed that mitt romney killed a woman. >> okay. the story is bad enough, you don't need to do that. >> can i please make my point? i'm going to say it again, barack obama, his campaign, they all claimed in 2012. it was one of the most horrific
in massachusetts and the same people who were the architects of the affordable care act, so to say that they were different plans is ridiculous. >> dave, you've heard republicans have been very critical here of obama care specifically the individual mandate. and mitt romney did make a comment on that. take a listen. >> you say it should only be done at the state level, but here's what he said in 2007 about the idea of the thmandate. >> i think you'll find when it's all said and done after all the states that are the laboratories of democracy get their chance to try their own plans, that those who follow the path that we pursued will find it's the best path and we'll end up with a nation that has taken a mandate approach. >> so what is your thought here? what is done on the state level, is it reasonable for think it can be done on the national level? >> i'll say something very rare. i think romney is being consistent. actually is consistent to say he wants a state plan being he wants the federal government to stay out of it. it might irritate democrats to see him again, but he is making a correct
of massachusetts and that was changed as a national symbol. kennedy made it romantic and republicans were able to reduce it to harvard, symbolic out of the mainstream, too smart for prime time sort of thing. we both know boston is far more than harvard. scott brown is very much massachusetts just as elizabeth warren is. and i can see a guy like chris christie coming out of somewhere, southy or some other area in the greater boston area, like massachusetts is so much more than we were tagged dukakis. >> that gets to -- the reason i like michael dukakis, if somebody is wondering, why does he care about dukakis 25 years later? i think he gets one of the worst raps and unfair raps of any sort of modern major political figure. part of what you're saying about massachusetts is this idea of him being the harvard brookline tech no craft, volvo, wine and cheese, that's the label -- this image that stuck around him. i think it's tremendously unfair. not who he is. if you look at his rise in massachusetts, he appealed to the first generation and second generation pride, families off the boat struggling t
thought. in fact, when scott brown won that seat in massachusetts, you voted so quickly to ensure that not one republican will have input in the senate. and you now you complain about republicans being part of the fix. you didn't care what we had to say during the time. >> this is not true. >> nancy pelosi made it clear. you'll have to read the bill when it's passed. because you didn't want to take the time to listen to republican ideas to get republican input and now you want to blame us. that's not how it works. >> the secret is this whole thing was bit on conservative republican ideas in the first place that you all cut and ran from because this president is the one who promoted it. >> zero votes. zero republican votes because you didn't want to work with us. you didn't care about our ideas. and now you want to blame us. it doesn't work that way. >> that's just not how it happened. >> when we passed part "d" and that's a great success. >> guys, we've got to leave it there. mo from the dnc, sean from the rnc, this was fun. let's do it again. >> thanks for having us. >> thanks. >
under the health care reform law that massachusetts enacted in 2006 under governor romney. >> we can reasonably expect the numbers will grow substantially over the next five months as they did in massachusetts which enrolled only .3%. or 123 people in its first month. we know from experience in the bay state that people tend to research and kid theconsider th options talk things over with their families before making a purchase. >> joining me now, from "the washington post," and professor of economics at mit who worked on the massachusetts health care reform law and -- the affordable care act. okay, professor, it is up to you to tell us how -- the affordable care act is doing, compared to the early days of the massachusetts law. >> the big issue, it is too early to make a strong conclusion. the bottom line is people don't sign up until they have to. >> we are doing better than massachusetts. as secretary sebelius said .3% in massachusetts. 1 1/2% of the federal level. goal of 7 million. that is not a relevant comparison. relevant comparison happen in march. we need new focus on not t
rally up in massachusetts, the state made famous for his so-called romney care which was used as a blueprint to the affordable care act of the president's. the president is at war with republican who is have made it their sole mission these days and years to destroy the health care law. while the aca has certainly seen its share of glitches or problems, the gop has gone to great lengths to magnify and in many cases distort the issues. look at the latest headline in today's los angeles times. quote, another obama care horror story debunked. gwen moore a democrat from washington and jonathan gruber an m.i.t. professor in economics. he also served as an adviser to the white house and to congress on the president's health care plan. congresswoman, i want to start with you. i think somebody from mars would watch the congress these days and say what are those people so angry about? fighting like mad from the republican side with all this anguish and frightening anger. and i get the feeling it's not about whether the program is working or not. what they are angry about the democrats
of massachusetts. his opponent had a marquis name, henry kabt lodge. kennedy won an upset again. they replicated this model in 1960 in the wisconsin proom ima in the west virginia primary. joseph kennedy stepped out of the spotlight, leaving the stage so his kids could shine. he stopped by the president elect's home in georgetown, to meet john f. kennedy jr. >> i counted this up. >> how do you feel about jackson? >> after all, it is amazing. >> joe kennedy was insistent that jack bring robert into the cabinet as attorney general. president kennedy could have someone he could absolutely trust in that position. rfk resisted the idea, tried to get washington wise men clark clifford to talk him out of it. we know how that went. >> i am pleased to accept the position of the attorney generalship of the united states. >> in 1961, joseph kennedy suffered a debilitating stroke, lived out the last decade of his life away from public view with the knowledge that his family name had become the gold standard of american political dynasties. for more on the party that joe built, i want to bring in philip john
. >> but to the prototype for obama care, the massachusetts health care plan created by mr. obama's former 2012 rival, mitt romney, in that first month, in that program, slow rollout, only roughly 100 people signed up. >> virtually every resident in the commonwealth is insured today. >> health care reform in this state was a success. that doesn't mean it was perfect right away. >> officials warn, the numbers would be low. >> that doesn't include those who enrolled in state exchanges. >> the state exchanges, which are essentially set up for free by the federal government in the states that accepted them, are doing very well. >> it's cranking out people that are joining up every day. >> over the last three years, internal obstacles and bureaucratic molasses threatened the whole enterprise. >> when you go to the pulse center and find out how many residents in that state are being helped, you only shake your head as to why we aren't doing that in every state of the union. >> all of this is in place right now. it is working right now. >> if there is a way that you can insure every one of your people or get them
time. >>> jonathan gruber is an economics professor and the key architect of massachusetts romney care law and anne filipic. i know we're rolling with the punches this morning but jonathan, we have the president meeting with insurers today trying to get their buy-in on this. i'd like to get your reaction to the president and his comments that he made yesterday, basically putting his mea culpa out there about the many admissions of this fumble. >> another mistake that we made i think was underestimating the difficulties of people purchasing insurance online and shopping for a lot of options with a lot of costs and a lot of different benefits and plans and somehow expecting that this would be very smooth. >> as we look at comparing the national issue with what happened in massachusetts, the health care rollout of that state when it happened in the early 2000s, '06, where just 123 people enrolled in that first month. then we look at obama care's weak rollout numbers they beat massachusetts numbers percentagewise and that's the standard we use to measure success. jonathan, explain to all o
by the massachusetts health reform and affordable care act. professor of economics, mr. grubaer, good morning. >> good to be here. >> you have been quoted in numerous places as saying this idea of fixing this issue for those on the individual market or getting these policy cancellations and policies they would like to keep, saying going down that road is a road that could unravel the law. explain this to me. >> let's start with understanding. we are not talking about the vast majority of americans. this law is those who lose employer insurance and government insurance alone. it's a small minority on the way to the individual market. it's 40%. >> still millions of people. >> exactly. 12 million people and about a 30 will end up paying more under the law. that as you said is the idea. we currently have highly discriminatory systems. if you are going to be sick or get sick, you cannot get health insurance. the only way to end that system is to bring everyone into the system and pay a fair price. that means the winner who is have been paying a low price now will have to pay more. we will have a system whe
, noted that in the first month of sign-ups for the massachusetts version of health reform, only 100 people signed none the whole first month. but in massachusetts, eventually the glitches got ironed out, and enrollment numbers went up. and now in massachusetts, there
, for example, noted that in the first month of sign-ups for the massachusetts version of health reform, only 100 people signed none the whole first month. but in massachusetts, eventually the glitches got ironed out, and enrollment numbers went up. and now in massachusetts, there is essentially universal coverage. that state is essentially the template for our national numbers. but the numbers out today, 100,000 people signed up in the first month. in addition, another one million people were determined to be eligible for getting a new play in marketplaces for health insurance. but they have not chosen a plan yet. the overall idea is for everybody to get insurance over time. the republicans are rejoicing in the early low numbers, praying nobody else signs up to get health insurance, but we'll see how it goes. history tells us these things do tend to start slowly. also in washington today, you just heard on "all in" with chris hayes, they also saw the introduction of a landmark new piece of federal legislation that would try to protect women's access to abortion, protecting it, not curtailing
numbers. but let's remember what happened in massachusetts with romney care. he was their candidate last year. >> i've heard of him. >> when he was governor of massachusetts, he had romney care. only 123 people signed up in the first month of the massachusetts health care law. 123. that's all that signed up. or just 0.3% of the total who signed up by the end. 20% signed up in the last month of enrollment. so just look what happened with romney care. the potential head of their party last year, they had less than 1% in the first month, 0.3% to be exact. and in the last month, 20% because as it gets closer to the due date, that's when people make a rush. it's almost like christmas shopping. >> exactly. yeah. >> so it takes time. and there's a demand. we see a similar trend nationally. >> we do. and, you know, we all have to be frustrated with the website problems. and i'm sure there were some missed opportunities there, but in terms of being on track for this law to work and for people to sign up by the date they need to sign up, we are still on track to be able to make things work. and ev
for the wrong reasons. mostly, the part of massachusetts where i'm fro didn't get any attention. when i was 12 years old, it got a lot, a lot of very positive reasons. it is because of this guy, paul tsongas. he had gone into local politics and in 1992, he was running for president. this is just when i was starting to get interested in politics. i didn't know much about the difference between the two parties. i knew it was really cool that someone that lived a few miles from our house was running for the white housing, the most important job in the world. every afternoon, the lowell sun would land on our doorstep. i would devour the information on the trail. i really wanted him to win. he won new hampshire and maryland and bill clinton overwhelmed him. there were a lot of reasons that he beat tsongas that year. one thing i knew, clinton had gotten rough and pushed the line. i was mad at bill clinton. i'll admit, i held a bit of a grudge. fast forward to 2007. i am writing a column i am not doing tv. i am a nobody. i am in thousands of dollars for debt. with hillary clinton setting out to run f
, that in the first couple of months in massachusetts, and that's really the only precedent we had, there were only a couple of thousand people who signed up. we also know about the very troubled rollout of the prescription drug site. we do know that fixes could be made. one thing we also know is that if you put a bill on the floor, and that's what i challenge speaker boehner to do, put a bill on the floor to fix it and see if that doesn't devolve into another appeal. remember where they began. first they undermined it. then they tried to repeal it. now they're trying to sabotage it. one of the problems we're having now is that they're having to take money from other parts of hhs because the appropriators have not in fact funded what needed to be done with this site. one of the changes i think that's going to have to happen is that the public is not going to action i believe, be forced to pay a fine if the website isn't up and if the whole thing isn't running more smoothly. i don't think anybody wants to put this over on the public. but nobody for one second believes that my committee, which is now
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. we have seen it work in massachusetts. that would be as -- as undisruptive as possible. in good faith fried to write the law so people could keep their care. we believe ultimately they will be better off when they're buying health care through the marketplace. they can access tax credits and benefiting for choice and competition. but obviously we didn't do a good enough job in terms of how we crafted the law. that's something that i regret. that's something that we are going to do everything we can to get fixed. in the meantime. >> that sound like you are supportive of this legislation, the various things that are out there? >> we are looking at a range of options. one thing i want to emphasize though, chuck. everybody is acting as if the existing market was working. fact of the matter is that a whole lot of people who are in this individual market who are big health care on their own, not getting it through their employer, they might be happy with it this year, and then suddenly next year the cost got jacked up by 15%, 20%. the average increase on premiums in this individual market f
basically in massachusetts right now can still happen across the country. i don't want to put -- i don't want to turn this into just blaming republicans. when obama says they fumbled the ball, he's right. this is ultimately the administration's responsibility for how botched the rollout and the website has been. i don't think what they anticipated was that 3 1/2 years after this law was enacted they wouldn't have gotten even the tiniest ounce of cooperation from republicans. when you compare that to massachusetts, when it became the law of the land in massachusetts, it stopped becoming a partisan issue. and there was a coming together of both sides to make the law work, to put public service campaigns together, to get people to vote, to get civic organizations engaged. something we haven't seen because this has been a contested political issue since march 2010. that's not the only reason. the administration deserves a ton of blame here and the future of this thing is in doubt right now. i would say that's an element of it. if they didn't fully anticipate that, i'm not sure they should
helped write the massachusetts health care law. professor gruber, this number, the 1.5% is what we've been wondering about since we first started hearing the stories about policy cancellations and people having to get new insurance and what we wanted to know is how many of these people will actually end up paying more? some estimates said maybe 5% but it turns out to be something very low. >> well, the main point, lawrence, is that most americans are simply not affected. most americans get their health insurance from their employer, the government are not affected. it's the roughly 4% of americans who buy health insurance on their own who could potentially see higher prices and of that, only about a third or about 1.5% of people actually end up paying more for their health insurance under this law. >> i want to put up a graph that indicates exactly what you said, i think one of our numbers in it might be slightly off but we have a graph showing that 80%, 80% are unaffected by the affordable care act in terms of their costs, 15% are the, are uninsured who will get health insurance t
that glitch. but at the end of the day, this is really the massachusetts plan. and ed, 97% of the people in massachusetts are insured. and that brings peace of mind and happiness. >> senator, what's your reaction to the supreme court taking up the contraception mandate? >> i think it had to be taken up, because as you know, there are court opinions all over the place. but i really want to make a case here. if this court is truly for individual freedom, it should think about the individual rights of the people who work in corporations all across america. it is their right to make a decision. and i don't know if you're aware of this. it surprised me to learn this originally. 50% of the people who take birth control, of the women, take it for a medical condition. and it prevents cancer and other gynecological problems. so if an employer is stopping you from that, they're going to stop you from getting your kids a vaccine, if their christian scientists. so i think -- look, i believe in a conscience clause, obama administration has one for religious institutions. but that's as far as it shoul
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yesterday from mitt romney. he spent some time talking about the rollout in massachusetts. of course, obama care has been compared to that health care plan since its inception. how accurate of a picture was governor romney painting in terms of the rollout there in massachusetts? >> well, among the things i am not paying close attention to in retirement is governor romney. so i can't tell you because i don't know what he said. i will say this and this is one of the problems. in fairness to the administration -- and they clearly have much to apologize for -- the problems with the website, it was never anticipated that the federal website was going to have to do most of the country. people did not see the election of republicans in 2010 in many states who would then refuse to participate. and at the same time with the republican house refuse to provide the funding. so part of the problem with the website is that it was given a job that nobody anticipated it would have because of the unfortunate obstructionist attitude of some of the new republican governors. >> congressman barney frank, always
. >> the fact in massachusetts, they did it. they ended up with 98.5% in that state on insurance to be fair. they started with more who are on ens. i think what a lot of people are worried about right now. i think it's a real worry. is that with so much attention on the website and obama care and does it work and doesn't it work? it just looks like a big mess. if you are young and healthy, are you going to troy to work your way through this thicket or pay your $95 or not pay it and mover on? that's the big question. >> we're very zraktd distracted, the young generation. >> i am, too. in massachusetts when it first ran, it ran through several glitches as the aca is now with one critical difference. in massachusetts, there wasn't an opposing political party trying to destroy it. >> and kill the message. >> and throw up a smokescreen that people throw their hands up. if way this was constructed, it could work. it could be an enormous benefit. >> if they sign up. a couple move news stories to get to. first of all, republican congressman trey raible will be in court -- radel, the freshman bought
of a bunch of women in massachusetts and said, "no longer will these evil insurance companies be able to charge you women more." but when did you last go to the doctor? >> when did i go to the doctor? >> elizabeth is going to answer quite quickly. women go to the doctor much more often than men. maybe they're smarter or maybe they're hypochondriacs. they live longer, i don't know. you ought to be able to charge the people who use the services more, more. >> the affordable care act was a historic achievement for women's health on several fronts. women can't be denied for a gender-based preexisting condition. it covers preventative services up such as contraception and mammograms. but what gets stossel's mustache in a twist is the law brings an end to the discriminatory practice of gender rating, which allowed insurance to charge women premiums costing up to 150% more than their male counterparts. rates are calculated by risk. a healthy woman who regularly sees her doctor for preventive screenings is actually minimizing her risk. or, according to john stosel, she's a hypochondriac. take
committee yesterday about massachusetts' experience. massachusetts is ahead of us in all of this. they have done the same thing with what we like to call romney care. so they said it was the same thing. people usually tend not to sign up until the last minute. and nobody is due until -- nothing is available even until january 1st. there's no penalty until march 1st, which is months away. and if you're a small business coming in, you don't have to come until your existing policy rolls over, which could be a year from now. so i think we have got to be a little patient with the, you know, first two minutes of the game outcomes and predicting what the final score is going to be. >> well, obama care is going to be a big story in 2014. is there any parallel by the way it was handled by terry mcauliffe in virginia and the way the democrats and the mid terms should handle it in 2014? he didn't run away from it and his opponent was saying it was a referendum. the election was a referendum on obama care. how do you break that down, and what do you see for 2014? >> you know, it's hard for me to give a
to massachusetts and the abysmal numbers in the beginning and eventually -- >> 123. >> and the healthier young people come on board and suddenly everyone seems to enjoy what they have available. but, again, knowing the industry the way you do, wendell and having blown the wistle on some of the dirty business, can't say it enough here, what is your major concern now? >> the big concern is waiting for two and a half weeks. one of the things to keep in mind. this is politics. we will see even if we get to 99.9% operation for the website, those who don't want this to be -- to continue will look for that small number of people to be dissatisfied. we know this is going to be a political issue for some time to come. >> all right, thank you all. we appreciate your time. april carey, we'll talk with you soon. >> the woman who became the face of obama care's website, she's now stepping forward and she said she's now the victim of cyber bullying, one of the things we thought you should know. >>> plus, there's no food. water, we cannot live here. >> we're going to need to really scale up our operations on
%, what do i care. it worked in massachusetts. 98.5% of all massachusetts citizens have health care. he bought this, it's his. he ought to make it work. it can work but not with this website. >> the one issue is not what he's fixing or, in my view politically isn't the biggest problem, it's the fact this promise he made dozens of times isn't true. >> that's a function of the website failure. the website doesn't fail -- these insurance people's policies getting rejected, they are terrible. they are $50 a month and you get nothing. >> people say that. being a victim of such a cancellation and having a good policy, i'm inclined in my anecdotal instance to say, not so much. >> isn't part of what's missed, that comment from john boehner when john boehner said this is a government takeover of the health care system. >> the best run health care delivery service in the world with 47 million uninsured. >> there's that, but also the idea it's the government's fault. what we're talking about here is the fact that the private insurance companies and the private company that set up the website has c
. again, context is important. in massachusetts when they went through their health care implementation, only 0.3% of people signed up in the first month. >> and we're looking at 1.3. an improvement over massachusetts. absolutely right. >> i think people take their time to sign up. it is unacceptable that the website isn't working. we made that clear in our lunch today with dennis mcdonough. but the perspective is important on that issue as well because most people do wait until they've take an look at all of their options, until they get closer to the deadline before they sign up. it's an issue, but it's being solved. >> so let me ask you, if you can give me insight in how the meeting went, would you say the house democrats and senate democrats who were there are all in line and as optimistic as you are? was there pushback? >> the democratic party is a big tent. i think he heard people that were supportive of states in which it's gone well like connecticut, and he heard a lot of pushback today. there's no excuse for the state of the website, but he did say -- dennis mcdonough said it i
's called romney care. we did it here in massachusetts. it was a mandate to help people to buy health insurance. there was a speaker from a heritage foundation on the podium with him talking about what a wonderful plan this was. it only became the devil's work the day that president obama changed his position. i think he deserves a lot of credit for this. changed his position to say this has worked, i'm ready to try this. this was not his original position. this was after looking at the success in massachusetts. he said, you know what? here's a system that works. yes, it was originally a republican idea, but it works. let's do it. i heard this described as the most partisan/bipartisan law. and i think it's right. you only because it has president obama's name on it suddenly it's a problem. >> so we agree. the republicans have no plan for the country. >> they do not. >> thank you. some of the most ludicrous criticism of the president came from the high offices -- i'm being sarcastic -- of reince priebus. this is shawn spicer accusing the president of the united states of blocking. here
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